i was heartened -- this doesn't relate to the fcc directly, but recently golf brown -- governor round in california focused on voip, voiceover ip in particular. that was a bipartisan group of republicans and democrats coming together to say we want to have innovation, and we want to incentivize investment in next generation networks. and the way to do that is to make sure that we don't apply those legacy regulations to those networks. >> host: well, joining our conversation is one of our regular guest reporters, eliza krigman of politico. >> thanks so much for having me, happy to be here. do you think that the telecommunication companies in a few years are going to be competitive with cable in wire line access? and if so, how are they going to do that without upgrading their networks? >> guest: i think they will be competitive. i think you've seen an increased amount of competition in recent years, and in last year alone communications companies spent $66 billion in infrastructure investment. that's a very substantial amount, and especially in the current economic climate i have to be